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This week Marianne welcomes the Property Brothers, Drew and Jonathan Scott to the podcast. They discuss why their latest show, Celebrity IOU, is such a big hit and why it is so moving. “You are honestly seeing these celebrities in a way you’ve never seen them before,” explains Drew. “The emotional stories and connections they have to the people they love and are giving back to; every renovation is unique because every story is unique. If you watch Celebrity IOU and you don’t cry, there’s something wrong with you.”

The brothers let us in on a little behind-the-scenes info about the show. They talk about how the concept for the show started over five years ago and that Viola Davis was the first celebrity to sign on. Then they reveal which celebrities have a true eye for design and which ones weren’t afraid to roll up their sleeves and get their hands dirty. The Kardashians surprised the brothers with their hard work and their enthusiasm for operating heavy equipment like jackhammers and backhoes. Darren Criss really enjoyed doing demolition so much, he wrote a song about it, while Gwyneth Paltrow completely and successfully took over the design reigns from Drew.

Drew and Jonathan share their wish list of celebrities they would like to have on the show and who they would like to go up against on the basketball court. The brothers also share their thoughts on being celebrities themselves, their first time being recognized in public, and how many thirsty tweets they get.

In our Defend the Trend segment of the podcast, Marianne asks Drew and Johnathan how they feel about design symmetry — mirror-image designs that’s totally balanced and proportioned. For Jonathan, he loves symmetry in design when it is not too obvious and doesn’t jump out at you. Although he points out, you need some things to offset symmetry otherwise the design can be boring, like if everything is too matchy-matchy. For Drew, it’s less about the symmetry and more about the chaos. “If you walk into a space sometimes symmetry just brings calm and it just makes sense.”